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bruschi11

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@Concerned I think Wilson calls this a “calcium shell”... I’d read up on this on his site. I don’t know enough, but you’ll definitely have to balance that.
 

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Hey thanks for replying. Have you been able to do anything to resolve or ease the vertigo symptoms?

Not really. It comes and goes but it's a pretty rare occurrence for me. Sometimes there'll be a few days where it randomly feels like my head is spinning a bit, it usually gets triggered when I lay down or tilt my head in a certain way.
 

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@Concerned I think Wilson calls this a “calcium shell”... I’d read up on this on his site. I don’t know enough, but you’ll definitely have to balance that.

THE CALCIUM SHELL
These may include defensiveness, rigidity, psychological withdrawal, emotional numbness, suppression or repression, loss of sexual desire, fatigue and exhaustion, apathy and usually some depression.

That's scarily accurate. What about for you @Concerned?
 

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THE CALCIUM SHELL


That's scarily accurate. What about for you @Concerned?

I could certainly say some of those apply to me but I'm cautious when it comes to broad terms like rigidity, suppression, exhaustion. Same with pfs with terms such as brain fog and depression. We all use words like this as shorthand to vaguely describe how we're feeling but a more nuanced or descriptive account is necessary I think, when trying to map how pfs feels. I've heard people who aren't going through pfs say they have brain fog and of course I cannot be sure that what they are experiencing is anything like what I am. I can say with certainty that I never experienced brain fog like this before pfs.

There are a couple of paragraphs in that article which are almost exact for my situation though, and describe a situation that was also there pre pfs:

A PROTECTIVE PSYCHOLOGICAL WALL
Another cause for the calcium shell in some individuals appears to be as a means of protection. The shell reduces stress by reducing the intensity of the impact of the environment upon a person’s nervous system. This is the numbing effect mentioned earlier.

Some individuals apparently need the shell to protect them from real or imagined stressors. The shell may be a remnant of a difficult childhood, for example, when one was not in control of the environment and had to use any defense possible to maintain one's integrity or even one’s sanity. In other words, the calcium shell can be seen as a kind of personality posturing that was adaptive at some stage of life and may still be adaptive, especially if the body is weak and not able to cope well with stress.

Movement – “Advancing very slowly with the brakes on”.
This is the ‘movement pattern’ that tends to go with a calcium shell. A movement pattern has to do with the way in which a person is handling life. When a calcium shell is present, a part of the person wants to move ahead, but another part does not want to move ahead. This is the meaning of moving ahead with the brakes on. This means that movement is very slow, often very measured, and conflicted or blocked to a great degree.

What are your thoughts on the correction advice @barbaar? Have you tried any of this before?

CORRECTION
The calcium shell pattern is definitely correctable using a properly designed nutritional balancing program. Often it begins to respond quickly, within a few weeks to a few months. Other nutrition and healing programs, in my experience, will not bring down the hair calcium level nearly as well.

The nutritional balancing program includes supplementing with calcium and magnesium in a bioavailable form to replace that which is being lost.

In addition to using calcium supplements, other ways to obtain high-quality calcium include eating sardines or other small fish with bones, eating raw dairy products, taking kelp capsules, and drinking 10-12 ounces of carrot juice daily or a little wheat grass juice. We formerly suggested drinking bone broth, but it may have too much lead to be recommended at this time.

Other nutrients that are often, though not always needed when a calcium shell is present are B-complex vitamins, and often vitamin C and E, manganese, zinc, and adrenal and thyroid glandular substance.

A detoxification program using near infrared light saunas is also helpful. (Other types of saunas are not as effective and I do not recommend far infrared saunas at all, due to their EMF emissions.) The use of coffee enemas will usually speed up the healing process significantly, as well. Plenty of pure water, either spring water or carbon-filtered tap water is also helpful.
 

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Probably the worst single experience since I crashed has just occurred. Left it nearly three hours from waking until eating. Hunger started up so had some chicken broth with chicken, brown rice and spinach. About ten minutes after finishing it, suddenly it felt as though a bomb went off in my brain. I literally shouted out "ARRRRGHHH", held my head and almost lost consciousness. Spent the next few minutes trying to root myself and not lose it. Nearly called an ambulance on the spot when it happened. Deep pressure in my head afterwards and still there now, not as strong though. Feel very traumatised and spaced out since, brain fog present.

Few things to note in the build up to this:

- Had diarrhea this morning, haven't had that for a while, my stools have been solid and fairly dry for the most part.

- After eating, I was scrolling my phone with my hand resting on the table. Looked at the table after a few minutes and noticed little puddles of fluid where my hand had been. I don't think I've ever sweat profusely from the side of my palm, WTF

- When people complain of digestive issues on this site, I never really knew what they meant. I've never had digestive issues or if I have, I wasn't aware of them. However, last night after eating, I did feel a bit of twisting or churning in my stomach after eating my usual rice, chicken and spinach. Then this morning, in the hours before eating, a lot of stomach growling noises. Then after eating earlier, quite a lot of discomfort in my gut. This is new, didn't even occur during my first crash.

Back to being on the couch and scared. Considering fasting again but I'm already skinny as fuck. Six foot three and 72.2 kg.
 

barbaar

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I could certainly say some of those apply to me but I'm cautious when it comes to broad terms like rigidity, suppression, exhaustion. Same with pfs with terms such as brain fog and depression. We all use words like this as shorthand to vaguely describe how we're feeling but a more nuanced or descriptive account is necessary I think, when trying to map how pfs feels. I've heard people who aren't going through pfs say they have brain fog and of course I cannot be sure that what they are experiencing is anything like what I am. I can say with certainty that I never experienced brain fog like this before pfs.

There are a couple of paragraphs in that article which are almost exact for my situation though, and describe a situation that was also there pre pfs:





What are your thoughts on the correction advice @barbaar? Have you tried any of this before?

Naw no clue on his correction advice. I'm just following the program ARL gave me, I only looked this up because bruschi mentioned it.
 

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Has the ARL program helped with brain fog or depression at all?

I haven't really been depressed since PSSD but that's because it's hard to be depressed when you can't feel any emotions. Brain fog is sometimes better sometimes worse but ARL can definitely be a rollercoaster with regard to symptoms so not sure if that's saying anything
 

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I haven't really been depressed since PSSD but that's because it's hard to be depressed when you can't feel any emotions. Brain fog is sometimes better sometimes worse but ARL can definitely be a rollercoaster with regard to symptoms so not sure if that's saying anything

Thanks for letting me know man
 

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Has the ARL program helped with brain fog or depression at all?
Hey @Concerned . ARL has definitely brought my baseline up in the brain fog area. I had that same feeling you did. Felt like my head was in a vice and about to pop. Had to force my self to move and keep going. If I let myself, I could have sat in a chair and stared off into oblivion for days on end. I can say that three weeks in, and the brain fog is much more under control. Of course, still many other issues looming, but that is one I am happy to have in a better state than it was.
 

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Hey @Concerned . ARL has definitely brought my baseline up in the brain fog area. I had that same feeling you did. Felt like my head was in a vice and about to pop. Had to force my self to move and keep going. If I let myself, I could have sat in a chair and stared off into oblivion for days on end. I can say that three weeks in, and the brain fog is much more under control. Of course, still many other issues looming, but that is one I am happy to have in a better state than it was.

I had seen you say your brain fog was improved in your log a few days ago. Happy for you that it seems to be sticking! Definitely inspires hope that I can reduce my brain fog from the ARL supps.
 

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Have you tried using Ella continuously @barbaar. I may have taken 50-70mg Ru now. I metabolize meds quickly (many at least, not the ones that destroyed me).
 

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Have you tried using Ella continuously @barbaar. I may have taken 50-70mg Ru now. I metabolize meds quickly (many at least, not the ones that destroyed me).

I've tried one cycle of 6 days and one of 3 days. The first cycle the benefits started fading after day 3, the second one I couldn't even notice anything after day 1. Might give it another go later, I want to focus on ARL for now. Interesting that you mention metabolizing meds quickly. Focalin which is supposed to last 8-12 hours wore off after like 3-4 for me, with a horrible crash. Assuming you mean ADD meds.

How's ru working for you?
 

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Ya mostly I mean ADD meds... The ones that suit me (one really. Most don't agree with me), but also stimulants, and also I have high tolerances for most things (nicotine, alcohol).

Ru is pretty good sometimes lifts mood but I try and take it away from everything else like pct or add meds. However, business starts to fall apart or other health issues make me need something else. I'll try and measure Ru doses better. I'm guessing I'll need some more. I have 1.3 pills left. My other 2 are MIA and so is the person who was supposed to receive them for me. I hope he didn't rip me off, maybe something happened to them.

Edit: Actually high tolerance for the bad things, probably very dangerous for me touch most things like hallucinogens and all that stuff, MJ, etc. I knew fin was trash, I just wanted to look better than my competition that mentally, intellectually, and status wise I am, looks wise too usually (but now I just look pissed off). People talk shyt if you lose hair esp if you're a certain race, so I messed up. Should have just sold whatever to whoever and gave retarded surgeons their deposit.
 
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Have you tried ella? It helped brain fog a lot for me for a day or two, although it didn't stick.

Thinking of stuff like that as a last resort after exhausting other avenues. Any hormone treatment scares me a bit after this experience. I "only" crashed from finasteride nearly eleven weeks ago so it's all still relatively new to me compared to many on the forum.
 

barbaar

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Thinking of stuff like that as a last resort after exhausting other avenues. Any hormone treatment scares me a bit after this experience. I "only" crashed from finasteride nearly eleven weeks ago so it's all still relatively new to me compared to many on the forum.

I don't think you have much to worry about with ella. But it's up to you of course.
 

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After eating a small broth yesterday afternoon then becoming perilously depressed minutes later, I've decided not to eat again. Don't know if I should go all today fasting too. Already feeling weak, haven't brushed my teeth or showered in a day and a half. Fell asleep last night at midnight then woke up and 1.30 am. Went for a pee then sat and scrambled on my phone for the Wim Hof breathing technique, I was so bleakly depressed and anxious. Tried the breathing technique and felt panic, I think. Trundled back to bed and collapsed with mental and physical exhaustion. Intermittent sleep followed.

I thought I'd left all these severe symptoms behind but nearly having some sort of seizure/blackout yesterday proves I haven't. Honestly I look at so many posts on pfs and majority talk of libido/sexual issues but mine are brain problems predominantly. Libido and erection issues are terrible but when in mental states like this, they seem almost like a luxury. Not eating in the last 18 hours has "stabilized" me a bit but I don't think I can do an extended fast again so soon after the last one.
 

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After eating a small broth yesterday afternoon then becoming perilously depressed minutes later, I've decided not to eat again. Don't know if I should go all today fasting too. Already feeling weak, haven't brushed my teeth or showered in a day and a half. Fell asleep last night at midnight then woke up and 1.30 am. Went for a pee then sat and scrambled on my phone for the Wim Hof breathing technique, I was so bleakly depressed and anxious. Tried the breathing technique and felt panic, I think. Trundled back to bed and collapsed with mental and physical exhaustion. Intermittent sleep followed.

I thought I'd left all these severe symptoms behind but nearly having some sort of seizure/blackout yesterday proves I haven't. Honestly I look at so many posts on pfs and majority talk of libido/sexual issues but mine are brain problems predominantly. Libido and erection issues are terrible but when in mental states like this, they seem almost like a luxury. Not eating in the last 18 hours has "stabilized" me a bit but I don't think I can do an extended fast again so soon after the last one.
I had crazy mental sides also. The main ones were constant racing thoughts, I felt like I was constantly on the verge of a panic attck, and crazy insomnia. There were some nights I only slept for like 15 minutes, but most of the time I could get 2 hours of sleep, but in 15 minute intervals.

RU helped a the most.
 

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I had crazy mental sides also. The main ones were constant racing thoughts, I felt like I was constantly on the verge of a panic attck, and crazy insomnia. There were some nights I only slept for like 15 minutes, but most of the time I could get 2 hours of sleep, but in 15 minute intervals.

RU helped a the most.

I don’t know if my problem is racing thoughts per se, it’s more I feel like in a different reality really. Yesterday I said to my mum, when the depression is hitting hardest, it’s painful to be alive. My brain feels zapped in some way. And yet, when I’m out and about, I still notice girls, in fact, average girls seem beautiful to me now, but my desire for them is almost based on being cuddled by them and looked after. Can also still get an erection from porn or thinking intently about sex.

I’m not freaking out today thankfully, but I haven’t eaten since yesterday. Eating makes all my mental symptoms worse.