Is this whole thing just a bacteria story?

[Canari]

Yep, I was premature 1 month and got antibiotics too as a baby. Who has not… Then I am lucky my parents sstopped this sort of treatment completely.
I am sure i do not have the right bugs at the right place, but I do not dare take any probiotics without knowing what I need!
Each time I have, anyway I felt ZERO effect.

I all call them "the tiny invadors", or aggressors, and I considere they create fight flight freeze responses.
I think we are a universe with star war inside us!

Mitochondrias used to be bacterias...
About bacterias Vs fungi, well, penicillium is killing bacterias. I also know that being sensitive to one or the other has to do with pH.
Alkaline kills fungi.
Acidic kills bacterias.
For those who are sensitive to alcool: this is actually a mycotoxin!

Resistant startch: is is like the Nemecheck protocole that uses inuline?
We need to start slow with RS, until we have some of the needed bacterias.... And what if those bacterias, that are useful in the colon, have migrated to the SI? Then you get bloated and gaz… and this Will not make the gut better. With inuline, it seems this does not happen, and that the bacterias in the SI are Little by Little "pushed" back where they belong.

About fiber….
It might depend, because we are not gorillas, the vegan make bad propaganda by hiding the difference - huge - in the length of our colons! Ruminants and animals who have a long enough colon and ferment fibers, are actually fat burners, burning the fatty acids produced by bacterias. I have read in all sources that we do not have the possibility to produce more than 500 calories like this, because of our short colons. We seem to have the length of colon of our best Friends the dogs!

 

[MNK99]

everybody worried about babyhood... it was yrs ago. let it go.

 

[ruprmurdoch]

I'm starting to wonder if this whole thing is just a bacteria story.

How many of you:
a) are a C section birth
b) not breast fed
c) had a sterile environment in your upbringing
d) have been on antibiotics


I'm at least 3 of those, maybe all 4. My acne was super bad, which was probably because I had tones of crappy food and not the right bacteria to digest it.
So I went on accutane.

Maybe hairloss is caused from having poor digestion too - for any number of reasons... gut is in poor condition, so lots of foods cause chronic inflammation = inflammation + dht = baldness.
So you go on finasteride.

Whatever it is... they say "you're not what you eat, you're what you absorb"
Well maybe we didnt absorb well, either deficiencies or inflammation processes which eventually leads to deficiencies etc.. ill health.

So the HTMA works on replacing our minerals, or imbalances... if we have the right balance of minerals, then the bad bacteria wont be able to live in us and the good bacteria thrive (aka the 'terrain' theory).

I'm planning on attacking this from both sides by using @Ocguy 's resistant starch protocol to hopefully get my good bacteria to thrive at the same time, so my absorption (and elimination) should be better. It would make sense that the TEI cycles would be more effective overall doing this, no?!



I've been complaining about my dry eyes forever since I joined this form: interesting thing has happened ... I got a flu, had massive fast oxidation spike and fever etc, eyes got super bad. I went outside and looked at the sun, to make them teary and wetter. It offered lasting relief. So i googled it, there was a dr. who recommended looking at the sun, eyes closed for 3 minutes a day to help dry eyes. He said it was a tension problem, the eyes were tense. Just today i came across an article saying that our eyes have bacteria. I wonder if the sun is like a sterilizer.


So we have the terrain theory, but also the germ theory. It seems chicken and egg. If we experience a,b, c or d our 'good' germs are wiped out or suseptible to being over taken by the bad germs. If this happens, our terrain changes quickly because it lacks strength due to inability to absorb the nutrients it needs.

Maybe HTMA rebuilds the terrain, and something like the resistant starch protocol rebuilds the germ?
Ive taken probiotics before but they never stuck, maybe because the terrain didnt have enough time (or wasnt prompted in the right direction by something like HTMA) to rebuild itself.

of course you are right, there is a war between fungus and bacteria. last 100yrs fungus are winning.

 

[tonysoprano]

I was also born two months prematurely!!!

 

[MNK99]

Discovered in the Ocean, off the coast of Antartica. Frozen over 75 million years ago.

 

[Aflac94]

Very interesting. Many people swearing ofc this is a gut problem. Just showing a hand too:

a) No, natural birth but was 3 weeks premature.
b) Was breast fed, mom says "for the first few weeks" and fed expressed breast milk before I could suckle "for real"
c) Not really tbh, we let kids eat worms in the 80s!
d) Yes, a few times

A) natural birth But 8 weeks premature
B) Not breast fed
C) not sure about sterile environment
D) been on antibiotics

 

[Aflac94]

I was also born two months prematurely!!!

Shit pattern of premature birth showing up

Those babies are given cortisol in the US to help lungs develop faster

 

[Aflac94]

Exactly the same but 6 weeks premature. Constant sinus problems and colds as a kid

What we were all premature

 

[Aflac94]

Exactly the same but 6 weeks premature. Constant sinus problems and colds as a kid

Wow another

 

[Aflac94]

me too. i think 1mo tho. did they give cortisol like 25-28 yrs ago? cause asthma?? i forgot what i was told, but definitely one month + premature. definitely 3-6am.

And another

Yes I believe they did give it then!

 

[Aflac94]

Exactly the same

Another

7 total so far !

Although I think about 10 percent of us babies are born early

Seems like could be much higher percentage of PFS ppl

 

[HerrFisch]

me too, 5 weeks to early and c-section.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Ye me too.

 

[jinstewart]

Also had childhood asthma, went on nebulisers (don't remember what) and ventolin inhalers into teens. Improved though, practically gone by 18.

EDIT - I also had a thought. Which is dangerous ofc. Would the bacteria idea explain the antibiotic, tribulus, St John's Wort, licorice root and DHT-based recoveries? I *think* I read that DHT prevents especially gut bacteria going nuts, and does *something* for the immune system. Also even Scenes' copper recovery?

Could 'stage one' in a treatment be getting, say, Genova test as per Chi, finding out what pathogens (if any) you got and going after those with antibiotics/natural treatments etc and, as in Chi's case, killing off enough PFS things so it crumbles? Then rebuilding the gut microbiome with @Ocguy 's "mega intestine super-sludge" after?

If someone has patience enough with me still to hold my hand and explain maybe why or not that'd be lovely! Lol, I really shouldn't try getting ideas and apoligies if this is f-ing bonkers and I'm retarded...

...But if I've HALF a chance at being right I've JUST got my super-mega-comprehensive Genova test back, and it's found a semi-antibiotic resistant thing in it. Would it be worth (once RU "post bloods" are taken and that clean trial concluded for us) SMASHING antibiotics for two weeks?

 

[Aleksandr]

Discovered in the Ocean, off the coast of Antartica. Frozen over 75 million years ago.

Captain America?

 

[Aleksandr]

Also had childhood asthma, went on nebulisers (don't remember what) and ventolin inhalers into teens. Improved though, practically gone by 18.

EDIT - I also had a thought. Which is dangerous ofc. Would the bacteria idea explain the antibiotic, tribulus, St John's Wort, licorice root and DHT-based recoveries? I *think* I read that DHT prevents especially gut bacteria going nuts, and does *something* for the immune system. Also even Scenes' copper recovery?

Could 'stage one' in a treatment be getting, say, Genova test as per Chi, finding out what pathogens (if any) you got and going after those with antibiotics/natural treatments etc and, as in Chi's case, killing off enough PFS things so it crumbles? Then rebuilding the gut microbiome with @Ocguy 's "mega intestine super-sludge" after?

If someone has patience enough with me still to hold my hand and explain maybe why or not that'd be lovely! Lol, I really shouldn't try getting ideas and apoligies if this is f-ing bonkers and I'm retarded...

...But if I've HALF a chance at being right I've JUST got my super-mega-comprehensive Genova test back, and it's found a semi-antibiotic resistant thing in it. Would it be worth (once RU "post bloods" are taken and that clean trial concluded for us) SMASHING antibiotics for two weeks?

Not sure about smashing antibiotics if u have antibiotic resistant bacteria (justfrom a logical stand point)
Ocguys resistant starch protocol seems good though, you smash the bad bacteria via feeding the good which then takeover is the idea

 

[vicecaz]

Wasn't born premature but through cesarean

Asthma as a kid until late teens, used antibiotics when I lived in French Polynesia to cure some Staphylococcus and on other occasions
Digestive issues as a teen, leading to acne and eventually accutane

I got a (fake) twin brother, born through cesarean with me, without these issues so the trigger was probably something else

 

[Canari]

Wasn't born premature but through cesarean

Asthma as a kid until late teens, used antibiotics when I lived in French Polynesia to cure some Staphylococcus and on other occasions
Digestive issues as a teen, leading to acne and eventually accutane

I got a (fake) twin brother, born through cesarean with me, without these issues so the trigger was probably something else

For asthma you can read in French about the Gesret method. I knew enough practitionner to tell that yes it Works.
Asthma is primarily liinked to the vagus nerve, and his theory about how the ribs are trigering it, stands well for me! So dont think that brothers are so similar, there are tiny enough differences tht can make a difference.

 

[vicecaz]

Sports and growing up in itself cured asthma in my case

 

[Canari]

Sports and growing up in itself cured asthma in my case

Yes it matches what happens when it has to do with bones and joints!
but some people cure it… and get eczema!
In case of change to eczema, this means that another vertebra + rib is involved! And in 90% of the cases the person in asthma and eczema, stands naturally a bit more on the right foot, even with a "shorter right leg".
Strangely this % is the reverse for people having psoriasis! They are 90% on the left leg and have pancras more affected than liver.

And in all cases this has to do with the trajectory of the vagus nerve, so crisis are often declared when stress ramps up!

And as the vagus inerves also the guts, well the vagus tone is also involved in the microbiome balance!

I have read research one day about changes in the vagus tone and nervous system that can change the microbiome without any dietary change! After all, they say that we have a second brain both in the heart and the guts… which actually is the same, as the nerve fibers are related. Well, not completely, as most heart fibers are from the ventral Branch of the vagus, and the guts are inerved mainly by the dorsal Branch of the vagus.