MOLECULAR HYDROGEN

[opiath]

@Yura

.. or the immune system was allowed to raise hydrogen peroxide to kill infections because you got rid of hydroxyl radicals and this caused oxidative stress in the brain.

 

[Yura]

@Yura

.. or the immune system was allowed to raise hydrogen peroxide to kill infections because you got rid of hydroxyl radicals and this caused oxidative stress in the brain.

This is not my quote. It is comment from here 27 Surprising Hydrogen Water Health Benefits - Selfhacked
But I also feel weird sensation in the head after drinking 500ml with high ppm almost like a pressure in my head and also around the eyes and root of the nose especially.. It also speeds up metabolism for sure. Which can cause low blood sugare and/or high stress hormones.. I hope that it can't create some serious oxidative damage. It can by oxidant indirectly by increasing antioxidants in the body, but at the same time the hydrogen should neutralize these free radicals and make water from them. So it should be safe.. I also take a lot of HCL so it is hard to tell what is doing what. Today I will drink 3L of hydrogen rich water and next couple of days I will stop. So I can tell what it is doing..

 

[HerrFisch]

I got to admit, drinking betain hcl with a straw and trying to not let anything touch the teeth is really tricky.
I already managed to inhale some instead of drinking.
I imagine hydrochloic acid even worse haha @Yura

 

[Yura]

I use 10-20 drops of 3,5% hcl concentration in 50-100 ml of water with some minerals. It is acidic like lemonade.. No problem with the straw.. I also take a sip of water after that..

 

[Helen]

@gbolduev what you think about this

"
Since it increases endogenous anti-oxidants it’s likely that it works in part as a pro-oxidant.
If you got your nrf2 epigentically blocked by mycotoxins you can damage yourself very serious.

Ochratoxin A impairs Nrf2-dependent gene expression in porcine kidney tubulus cells. - PubMed - NCBI

I have cfs and the hydrogen water oxidized my brain away. Gave me terrible “adrenal fatigue”.
Got over it by resting, pqq, lllt and sleep.
I have similar experiences with R-Lipoic Acid, garlic, green tea, gymnostemma, grape seed, etc wich are all strong nrf2 inducers"

Hydrogen is pro oxidant in a good sense. It increases oxygen delivery to the cell, since the cell is now protected from oxidation. This causes all kinds of reactions since it increases peroxide. And starts killing stuff. I had insane reactions when I started to drink it. Very fatigued vomiting and intoxicated. it lasted almost a month
You need to support salt and electrolytes and redox vitamins with it( b1 b2 b3)

mixing HCL with hydrogen water. is crazy with low potassium

 

[Helen]

Yura , do a hairtest and see your metabolism. Stop guessing.

 

[Yura]

Hydrogen is pro oxidant in a good sense. It increases oxygen delivery to the cell, since the cell is now protected from oxidation. This causes all kinds of reactions since it increases peroxide. And starts killing stuff. I had insane reactions when I started to drink it. Very fatigued vomiting and intoxicated. it lasted almost a month
You need to support salt and electrolytes and redox vitamins with it( b1 b2 b3)

mixing HCL with hydrogen water. is crazy with low potassium

Why crazy? I take hcl with potassium like in hydrochloric acid therapy. Btw I don't mix hcl in hydrogen water together..

 

[D4n]

With hydrogen water I have an initial energy spike followed by low energy the next day.

 

[Niles]

Most of the studies done with hydrogen water that show benefits used it in .5 - 1.5ppm, 1-2 liters a day. You guys are likely consuming up to 6ppm, and more may not necessarily be better if your body has trouble regulating electrolyte levels. I've been using 1 liter at 1-2ppm every day for a week and haven't had any issues. Haven't noticed much of anything at all, to be honest, but still early days.

@gbolduev would you not suggest drinking hydrogen water while on electrolyte protocol (with betaine HCl) due to excessive potassium depletion? Would hydrogen water help endogenous HCl production, so that electrolyte protocol substituting HCl for hydrogen water could be beneficial? I'm sure supporting HCl production isn't as simple as supplementing hydrogen and chloride, but curious...

 

[Yura]

I think that hydrogen water can't substitute hydrochloric acid supplementation. Especially for someone who had low stomach acid for a long time. I think that if you want "detox" your body, your lymphatic system from debris, stomach and colon from bacteria, parasites, fungi etc.. There is no better thing that hydrochloric acid. Which is natural thing for human body. Like people need to realize that low hydrochloric acid means alkalosis, but acidosis as well. Acidosis is from low hydrochloric acid in the stomach, but high waste acids from metabolism.. You will treat this acidosis by replenishing and restoring hydrochloric acid production. This will flush waste acids from the body. I see people here talking about baking soda and alkaline things to the body for acidosis. That is nonsense..
Btw I have no idea how much ppm I am drinking, but I will know this in next 3 weeks hopefully..

 

[Helen]

@Legna88 Just read some studies , it says that hydrogen water controls lactate after exercise and testosterone levels dont fall on smoking or drinking while drinking hydrogen water. This could be really good for your performance advantage

 

[Legna88]

@Legna88 Just read some studies , it says that hydrogen water controls lactate after exercise and testosterone levels dont fall on smoking or drinking while drinking hydrogen water. This could be really good for your performance advantage

doesnt exercise create and excess of hydrogen? this is why you said in the past to limit or even avoid HCL pills...

 

[Helen]

doesnt exercise create and excess of hydrogen? this is why you said in the past to limit or even avoid HCL pills...

exercise uses up hydrogen for anti oxidation. and creates lactate.

 

[Legna88]

exercise uses up hydrogen for anti oxidation. and creates lactate.

@gbolduev so why did you tell me to watch my HCL intake when I will restart exercise????

 

[Helen]

@gbolduev so why did you tell me to watch my HCL intake when I will restart exercise????

HCL is not molecular hydrogen .

 

[Legna88]

HCL is not molecular hydrogen .

so if one does not have the hydrogen machine, drinking more water(H2O) will be enough?

 

[Yura]

so if one does not have the hydrogen machine, drinking more water(H2O) will be enough?

lol H2O is H2O= oxygen attached to hydrogen. Hydrogen rich water is H2O + H2 without oxygen.. YOu don't need any machine. Read this thread omg..

 

[Helen]

so if one does not have the hydrogen machine, drinking more water(H2O) will be enough?

NO/ It has nothing to do with water. It needs H2 / you dont have to have a machine, just do what Yura does, it is very cheap way to make good hydrogen

 

[Legna88]

NO/ It has nothing to do with water. It needs H2 / you dont have to have a machine, just do what Yura does, it is very cheap way to make good hydrogen

when you first brought up the H2 water topic you said EVERYTHING is worthless compared to Hydrogen water generator and inhalation... now the other methods became ok? consistency my friend, consistency? are you copper toxic?

 

[Helen]

when you first brought up the H2 water topic you said EVERYTHING is worthless compared to Hydrogen water generator and inhalation... now the other methods became ok? consistency my friend, consistency? are you copper toxic?

I use the machine.and I have used sticks. If other methods can provide hydrogen without metals in it, you can try that. I never tried, them. But other members did. You should read this forum more .