PFS theory ( taking into account all the data that we received., CSF values, studies , blood tests, reactions)

[jacknap]

Yeah, I think that could be a factor for sure. In cdnuts case, I think he had lyme prior to taking fin in the first place, not sure if he was balding or not during that time, but it is interesting to see b/c many of the herbs part of the protocol are known to increase glutathionine (like he shou wu for example) maybe not enough for hair growth recovery long term. I'm not sure about the light at end guy though never read his story

would not be surprised if I had something viral at all. My mom always comments how at times my skin looks yellow. Never got tested for anything so it might be a benign virus but from all the girls I bang wouldn't be surprised if I got some weird Brazilian jungle virus shit lol

 

[Admiral]

the whole idea is to overcome the pissing out problem.

Yes, with different protocols, I realise that, but the part about taking in crazy amount of B’s just doesn’t make sense to me. How does that work when all you do is piss it out?

 

[jacknap]

Regarding deca, I was talking about this guy who had pfs type symptoms from deca for 8 years so it shouldn't be circulating in his system it is over 9 months ))
SAME Symptoms after Nandrolone use!

Also, so you think people that do not have hair loss in their family (not prone to it) will never become imbalanced in their life and get hair loss? Like their glutathionine system is genetically better than others that is why they do not have hair loss in their family?

my hair I think is kinda thin compared to about 5 years ago and also slight recession. Despite this though considering I did 4 cycles of r-andro still have a full head of hair. Think that's why RU58841 fucked me up. Hardly had DHT in the scalp so went straight to my brain. Ihatefin might have even more hair than me but still pfs. maxout too (tho never seen what he looks like)

but yeah we might all have slightly different imbalances.

 

[Trump_1776]

would 4 andro be the equivalent of TRT? I tried it because of this just to determine if I crashed my T from RU58841 since it's a total anti-androgen. It made me more aggressive, alpha mood, lots of boners daily (though not max hardness) but it didn't recover my sleep, erection hardness, arousal to pornography. So just wanted to rule it out and a kinda scary 3 weeks of suppression that herbs eventually fixed. Was great while on it though. If it wasn't for suppression would love to feel like that all the time.

That's what I'm saying tho. Take 4andro and BAM it's like I'm back to baseline. I think a lot of guys at PH tried TRT but hadn't made any steps to re-senstize any receptors so it didn't work. Just like R andro didn't work the first time. Same deal. This is why I'm seriously considering HRT, and I know there are a lot of folks on here that only see mineral balancing as the solution but damn lets look at results here

 

[Reverse]

I've been taking 100 mg of B2 and B6 every 12 hrs, almost everyday now for the past two months.

My bone and nerve pain has greatly improved. I haven't felt anything negative like you guys have from B2...but I piss bright yellow everyday.

 

[Trump_1776]

I've been taking 100 mg of B2 and B6 every 12 hrs, almost everyday now for the past two months.

My bone and nerve pain has greatly improved. I haven't felt anything negative like you guys have from B2...but I piss bright yellow everyday.

Is there a type of B2 or etc that is recommended? Ya'll just doing pills of it?

 

[TubZy]

No I'm referring to TRT yeah. And yeah, until I used 4 andro and was red pilled lol

got it, so are you feeling bad again like back into baseline pfs? Because a couple weeks ago you felt pretty much recovered right from cdnuts protoco, maybe it was just the prohormones that started to wear off. Cdnuts is against TRT as well so Im curious why the need for TRT now if cdnuts protocol helped you so much

TRT never did much for me when I tried it, also @joekool has been in TRT for like 9 months now and he felt like crap on it, only when he added prog or var to it he felt better

 

[RebelWithACause]

That's what I'm saying tho. Take 4andro and BAM it's like I'm back to baseline. I think a lot of guys at PH tried TRT but hadn't made any steps to re-senstize any receptors so it didn't work. Just like R andro didn't work the first time. Same deal. This is why I'm seriously considering HRT, and I know there are a lot of folks on here that only see mineral balancing as the solution but damn lets look at results here

No one believes mineral balancing as the only solution. Many guys did HRT and AAS and it did not fix them to 100%. I am living proof. I felt like shit on it both times. First time was OK in combination with Proviron. Second time test only felt suicidal and depressed. Yes probably because the receptors are not working good.

But how do you fix this? Not with TRT I think. Unless joekool gets completely fixed after he comes off then I will shut my mouth.

Just because you used 4-A and felt good does not mean you will feel the same on TRT. It is different.

You can listen to guys who done TRT or try it yourself. I think I wasted a lot of time doing the hormones.. Take progesterone with it. You can live life. Just have to inject every week.

This is a bandaid because when you get off you will go back to PFS state.

This is not a result. This is known information. Bandaid = not HEALED.

On the other hand people who have done or are doing mineral balancing are reporting higher baseline. This is a result because they are OFF all drugs and hormones.

cdnuts protocol contains prohormones to get influence receptors (overexpressed/underexpressed) which is result when you get off it and it sticks.

TRT is just overriding homeostasis by injecting yourself with hormones to make you feel good.

 

[Helen]

No one believes mineral balancing as the only solution. Many guys did HRT and AAS and it did not fix them to 100%. I am living proof. I felt like shit on it both times. First time was OK in combination with Proviron. Second time test only felt suicidal and depressed. Yes probably because the receptors are not working good.
But how do you fix this? Not with TRT I think. Unless joekool gets completely fixed after he comes off then I will shut my mouth.

You can listen to guys who done TRT or try it yourself. I think I wasted a lot of time doing the hormones.. Take progesterone with it. You can live life. Just have to inject every week.

This is a bandaid because when you get off you will go back to PFS state.

This is not a result. This is known information. Bandaid = not HEALED.

On the other hand people who have done or are doing mineral balancing are reporting higher baseline. This is a result because they are OFF all drugs and hormones.

cdnuts protocol contains prohormones to get influence receptors (overexpressed/underexpressed) which is result when you get off it and it sticks.

TRT is just overriding homeostasis by injecting yourself with hormones to make you feel good.

you will never know about Joe any more, he is on anavar))


tons of people ran trt for years, just open propeciahelp and see , you will see dozen of people who are on TRT 100mg a week for over 2 years now))

 

[Helen]

@Trump_1776 Stop derailing my thread , honestly. I posted a theory and wanted to have a discussion, you seem to not even read the theory.

 

[Trump_1776]

@Trump_1776 Stop derailing my thread , honestly. I posted a theory and wanted to have a discussion, you seem to not even read the theory.

Sorry if I got off track, but i did read the theory!

 

[Trump_1776]

got it, so are you feeling bad again like back into baseline pfs? Because a couple weeks ago you felt pretty much recovered right from cdnuts protoco, maybe it was just the prohormones that started to wear off. Cdnuts is against TRT as well so Im curious why the need for TRT now if cdnuts protocol helped you so much

TRT never did much for me when I tried it, also @joekool has been in TRT for like 9 months now and he felt like crap on it, only when he added prog or var to it he felt better

I posted in my thread that I was shutdown after 4andro, was feeling like such trash I took clomid just to be able to function - true story.
Dropped the clomid a week or so ago give or take, and am slowly recovering from that.

I'm also not a disciple of CD, just a slight follower of methods like herb cycling and r andro, I haven't heard him speak on TRT before

 

[Trump_1776]

No one believes mineral balancing as the only solution. Many guys did HRT and AAS and it did not fix them to 100%. I am living proof. I felt like shit on it both times. First time was OK in combination with Proviron. Second time test only felt suicidal and depressed. Yes probably because the receptors are not working good.

But how do you fix this? Not with TRT I think. Unless joekool gets completely fixed after he comes off then I will shut my mouth.

Just because you used 4-A and felt good does not mean you will feel the same on TRT. It is different.

You can listen to guys who done TRT or try it yourself. I think I wasted a lot of time doing the hormones.. Take progesterone with it. You can live life. Just have to inject every week.

This is a bandaid because when you get off you will go back to PFS state.

This is not a result. This is known information. Bandaid = not HEALED.

On the other hand people who have done or are doing mineral balancing are reporting higher baseline. This is a result because they are OFF all drugs and hormones.

cdnuts protocol contains prohormones to get influence receptors (overexpressed/underexpressed) which is result when you get off it and it sticks.

TRT is just overriding homeostasis by injecting yourself with hormones to make you feel good.

I'd have to disagree on a couple points - but out of respect and Helens request I won't continue to derail the thread. I'm tryng to be a nicer guy these days. You're welcome to inbox me tho bruv

 

[Astral kid]

I suffered severe panic attacks, could not leave my house, had crazy PTSD, since my wife died with green fountains coming out of her stomach.

Was put on tranquilizers and paxil, which did nothing. My business partner brought me to Cyprus on meds. I was done and dying.

One month on ARL and all my mentals problems were GONE. zero panic attacks, zero bad moods, beta endoprphins were back up. All my mental problems were solved and never came back

It is the easiest part on NB. It is the part that gets fixed first and very fast. There are 1000s of people posting being cured from PTSD kind of things from NB in a very
short time.

I have personally helped 100s. And even on this forum, the first things you hear is wow, it fixed my mental problems. Look at tony sopranos log ))

We all run on minerals certain minerals control your neurotransmitters. there are no scarring . there are simply deficiencies of stuff.


what is PTSD. it comes from a period of extreme stress. your cortisol goes up and stays up for a while. What does cortisol do?

Cortisol wastes potassium out of the body. And then when stress is over, potassium level are so low that cortisol cant rise anymore.

And this is called adrenal burn out. Adrenal fatique. PTSD.


Since cortisol cant rise, because of low potassium, body has to work on adrenaline. all the time

And people get insomnia. and also panic and cant handle stress well, since B vitamins run very low . since B vitamin are spent constantly for making adrenaline.


This is the reason Testosterone goes down. Since testosterone leads to estrogen. And estrogen retains COPPER. And without potassium retention of COPPER is prohibited. this is the reason steroids go down.

Which would you say is better for mental problems. ARL or TEI?

 

[M_Mitchell08]

Lyme disease wastes your arginine. so you dont even produce nitric oxide.

EBV also activates arginase.

If it is big enough you will be balding.



balding is a the imbalance of copper, iron manganese metabolism, along with B vitamins.


You have have high nitric oxide and bald. since it will create free radicals, since there is no SODS

you can have zero nitric oxide and bald, since there is no circulation.


You can be iron or copper toxic or def and bald


there are no tons of imbalances which can cause balding.


Like woman in menopause they are balding. why


Since now they cant deliver iron into the tissue


Probably their menopause is happened since they overloaded copper in the brain, and now estradiol falls and boom iron stays in the liver, just like men


this is why you get hairloss from jerking off too much and those compulsive masturbators are balding. since they simply stop iron delivery into the tissue. and copper delivery into the tissue, since they are low on zinc and manganese

Any way the bold can reset?

 

[Nina]

I suffered severe panic attacks, could not leave my house, had crazy PTSD, since my wife died with green fountains coming out of her stomach.

Was put on tranquilizers and paxil, which did nothing. My business partner brought me to Cyprus on meds. I was done and dying.

One month on ARL and all my mentals problems were GONE. zero panic attacks, zero bad moods, beta endoprphins were back up. All my mental problems were solved and never came back

It is the easiest part on NB. It is the part that gets fixed first and very fast. There are 1000s of people posting being cured from PTSD kind of things from NB in a very
short time.

I have personally helped 100s. And even on this forum, the first things you hear is wow, it fixed my mental problems. Look at tony sopranos log ))

We all run on minerals certain minerals control your neurotransmitters. there are no scarring . there are simply deficiencies of stuff.


what is PTSD. it comes from a period of extreme stress. your cortisol goes up and stays up for a while. What does cortisol do?

Cortisol wastes potassium out of the body. And then when stress is over, potassium level are so low that cortisol cant rise anymore.

And this is called adrenal burn out. Adrenal fatique. PTSD.


Since cortisol cant rise, because of low potassium, body has to work on adrenaline. all the time

And people get insomnia. and also panic and cant handle stress well, since B vitamins run very low . since B vitamin are spent constantly for making adrenaline.


This is the reason Testosterone goes down. Since testosterone leads to estrogen. And estrogen retains COPPER. And without potassium retention of COPPER is prohibited. this is the reason steroids go down.

How can you tell someone mainly runs on adrenaline? What are the symptoms?

 

[Reverse]

Is there a type of B2 or etc that is recommended? Ya'll just doing pills of it?

I'm just taking pills of it but also pills of vitamin D daily and sometimes I throw in tyrosine.

However, the pills I'm taking aren't high quality, i think they contain dicalcium phosphate or dicalcium oxide which u read somewhere is no good .

I'll be changing to better ones after my holiday expenses. It's called Dr....I forgot the name at the moment lol

 

[BC2018]

What if you become balanced and keep losing your hair, then it means hair loss isn't a balancing issue, but indeed a genetic one.

It means we are not noticing the small details of our life that differ from the next guy and doctors don't know enough about the imbalances of the body yet

 

[ballheadbuddha]

It means we are not noticing the small details of our life that differ from the next guy and doctors don't know enough about the imbalances of the body yet

Is that to say that ALL genetic predispositions are reversible? since its due to a certain balance that could be quantified, analyzed and tackled?
I don't know man.. sometimes I find epigenetics a far pretentious theory, I hope to be wrong.

 

[diffi]

Is that to say that ALL genetic predispositions are reversible? since its due to a certain balance that could be quantified, analyzed and tackled?
I don't know man.. sometimes I find epigenetics a far pretentious theory, I hope to be wrong.

Genetics: glyphosat changes genetics. This way, it causes cancer.
I just want to show you how "easy" it is to change even genetics resp.cause mutations.
Epigenetic is real and makes absolute sense cause we are a very adaptive specie.
Trauma from war can cause epigenetic changes and be transferred to the over next generation. Symptom: Depression.
Treatment: AD.
Hair loss seems rising in men. Genetics?
Which genes?