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Sounds like me, also it is so confusing because I have almost all the symptoms of both fast and slow oxidation. I have no clue which case I am because all the 4 macro minerals are so close to each other.

It is easier said than done, most people have office jobs and you need to be lucky that the sun is shining in your break. Also, we don't get any UVB from September until March.

What about more sun? UVA and UVB are both really important. Our ancestors used to work outside but nowadays we all have office jobs and skin cancer campaigns to avoid the sun.

I've been fed 2mg copper daily by TEI during my last cycle, I'm really curious how my copper shows on the next hair test. I also had some of your symptoms in the past and I hope it was just from a copper deficiency.

As a customer I've tried to contact them. But they routed all their answers back via the practitioners in your own country, which in my case is Vitamunda and I actually don't have that much fait in them.

TEI should give a statement if they acknowledge the 4 lows pattern. ARL does this on their website, but can't find anyting about TEI. Gonna do a 3th round of TEI and might switch to ARL if still in 4 lows.

1 Week has passed since I stopped my 2nd cycle and haven't been taking any supplements. To be fair I'm actually feeling worse. I have strong apathy, dry skin got even worse and no strength/motivation to do anything at all. Also zero libido. I am actually having doubts that TEI is treating 4 lows...

Always hated the so called anti estrogen supps like DIM and grape seed. Always stiff body and cracking joints and slight depression with emotional numbness. I think our estrogen receptors are not sensitive enough. I am not convinced those anti estrogen supps are the way to go.

At which cycle did you notice regrowth? My 2nd cycle had copper in it, and my hairline got damaged even more.

The optimal way would be a hair test combined with blood work and working together with an expert that knows all these interactions. But this is not achievable for most of us. I think TEI is the closest we can get and at least gives me some rest in a way that I don't have to worry about...

"If you don't have an ocean in your backyard your hairs are fucked"

Gonna start the 3th cycle soon and I really want to believe you Helen but I really hope to see anything positive hair-wise on my 3th or 4th cycle. Its just hard on some days to watch. Fucking mental game.

@RebelWithACause and yet I also know a lot of people who live like utter shit, smoking, drugs, alcohol, steroids and keep their perfect hairline, so it is confusing to say the least. It would be great if we could see some regrowth in the end but I doubt if we could get back our hairline. I have...

Also watched his older video's and he looked way better there. One thing we can conclude is that his hairline either stayed the same or, in my opinion, even got worse. At least ARL won't regrow your hair LOL.

I think the ultimate goal is to fix the hair loss, that is the reason after all why we all came together on these forums, almost everyone used FIN, DUTA, whatever, to fix our hair loss. Perhaps its wishful thinking, but in a completely balanced oxidation, the hair follicles won't be damaged...

Yes first test was 4 lows, but I wouldn't be suprised that their theory is also valid for people like us who have been experimenting with all kind of hormones, minerals and things like hydrogen water before hair testing. In a way we all have been doing cycles of other stuff, we weren't like...

I know Rebel, and I agree with you for the most part. I don't doubt their knowledge about fixing imbalances, they probably know it all. But I'm talking about the specific well known pattern 4 lows, which is one of the hardest to fix. This is also worriesome from Dr. Wilson, very recent update...

I think that is somewhat of a problem with these protocols the uncertainty and unanswered questions make it tough sometime. It would be great if we could get some more conclusive answers on those subjects. The main problem is that I'm almost reading everywhere that 4 lows can't be a fast...

Hello all, I've been trying to find any information about TEI reading a 4 lows hair test properly? Can't find anything conclusive and I've read that 4 lows is always a slow oxidizer, but TEI does rank some 4 lows as fast oxidizer, based on the ratio's, meaning that you'll get all the wrong...

I agree that it probably won't matter much, only if you had incorrect previous test it might make a difference. I am going to use 0.5cm hair this time if it is allowed, which is around 2 weeks of hair growth, so most of the supps will be out of the system.