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    ZINC FINGER THEORY DISCUSSION for PFS - 2 cases

    To save answering a bunch of pm’s on this (don’t feel bad): Copper + potassium + magnesium for a couple of weeks, then cysteine was the kicker. When I added cysteine to this, I was what I’d call cured. No more sexual pfs symptoms, energy was good, mood good, confidence good. I’m told selenium...
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    ZINC FINGER THEORY DISCUSSION for PFS - 2 cases

    If copper just doesn’t work for you, try: histidine + zinc + manganese. Or just wait till he tells you what to take!
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    ZINC FINGER THEORY DISCUSSION for PFS - 2 cases

    Is anyone or @gbolduev able to confirm if the hair patent in the opening post is histidine + copper + lysine or glycine? He said glycine, but then he said the base aminos, and mentioned lysine in another post somewhere in this thread.
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    ZINC FINGER THEORY DISCUSSION for PFS - 2 cases

    Haha so it pretty much fixes everything and makes your life better in every way...with the possible exception of hair... It made my hair quality better, I remember that. That’s why I was thinking I could ride it out and see if it leads to hair growth overall, but it shed like crazy. The peat...
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    ZINC FINGER THEORY DISCUSSION for PFS - 2 cases

    I remember when I used it briefly I felt amazing, so much energy, skin looked like an A list celeb. Don’t remember anything about the libido and drive...do you notice anything? The issue for me was hairloss increased, thinning, shedding etc. Was willing to ride it out for a bit but it...
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    ZINC FINGER THEORY DISCUSSION for PFS - 2 cases

    Aren’t all the signs of metabolism fairly obvious without measuring temps? Digestion, sleep, warm hands/feet etc...
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    Does it make sense to try DHT + estrogen?

    My man it has been tried and verified by several people. Worked on me in less than 2 days. Felt normal, better than normal probably. Hair thinned within a week so I quit it. Definitely on the right track with gbold’s protocols.
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    ZINC FINGER THEORY DISCUSSION for PFS - 2 cases

    Is anybody just taking zinc + cysteine + histidine...as in straight zinc finger??
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    ZINC FINGER THEORY DISCUSSION for PFS - 2 cases

    I know @gbolduev explicitly said it’s not just about histidine, but more and more it seems to be a case of get histidine working and the rest will follow. Histidine hcl and Thorne extra?
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    ZINC FINGER THEORY DISCUSSION for PFS - 2 cases

    So you’ll keep doing the cysteine even though it’s not in protocol? Also I have d-aspartic acid, did he say somewhere that’s no good?
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    ZINC FINGER THEORY DISCUSSION for PFS - 2 cases

    Agreeing it’s not clearly written but the end of the opening post lays it out step by step and the summary I posted follows that. All the things you mentioned just here to be missing are there in the amino supp or the mineral supp or the brewers yeast. The b vits includes b6, b3 (nad)...
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    ZINC FINGER THEORY DISCUSSION for PFS - 2 cases

    That covers everything doesn’t it? I summarised from the bottom part of his long opening post. It doesn’t have zinc and it doesn’t have cysteine, but all the precursors are there I think. Increase folate with kale and spinach or supplement if you want. Alternatively, you can just take zinc...
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    ZINC FINGER THEORY DISCUSSION for PFS - 2 cases

    @gbolduev this is the guy you said is taking the full protocol you are talking about? Where is his cysteine? Full protocol from first page is: 1) histidine + serine + aspartic acid 2) essential aminos + electrolyte supplement 3) pine pollen powder (mineral supplement) + b vitamins in small doses
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    ZINC FINGER THEORY DISCUSSION for PFS - 2 cases

    Where are the posts he said about candida and histidine again? I can’t see them in this thread. What were the key points? Pfs for years but mucked around with androgens over the journey which masked things and possibly made other things worse. 2mg copper, 500mg cysteine.
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    ZINC FINGER THEORY DISCUSSION for PFS - 2 cases

    Yeah pfs not my issue anymore - at least while I’m on cysteine and copper. Not willing to come off just yet and see if I’m entirely balanced/cured. Been about 2 weeks. I was already doing well before cysteine but still had issues with erection quality - cysteine within a day or two just fixed it...
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    ZINC FINGER THEORY DISCUSSION for PFS - 2 cases

    Gbold said so. He explained earlier about nac not being preferable for chelating heavy metals. It was my first question when cysteine was mentioned. Go back a few pages and read. Must admit it’s getting a bit messy with 2-3 threads discussing this theory now, I can’t tell you which one it’s in.
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    ZINC FINGER THEORY DISCUSSION for PFS - 2 cases

    Definitely not n-acetyl cysteine. Has to be l-cysteine, preferably in hcl form. I’m still waiting on histidine to arrive but just cysteine and copper has changed things. Erections better, I’d say a non-issue now. Libido great. Sensitivity much improved. Hair slightly thicker maybe. Skin...
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    ZINC FINGER THEORY DISCUSSION for PFS - 2 cases

    How important is folate in all this? Is it just part of cysteine or histidine or is it required as a stand-alone?
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    Discussion of histidine and zinc finger involvement in PFS

    Re: Discussion of histidine and zinc finger involvement <r><QUOTE author="Sevens" post_id="5989" time="1512494908" user_id="1380"><s> </e></QUOTE> If it’s difficult to get I wouldn’t bother just yet...this seems like it will all change and won’t be the final recommendation anyway.</r>
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    General Q & A

    There is no resveratrol protocol. He has said estrogen + dht will fix you very quickly, but it likely won’t last once you come off. In terms of balancing you longer term, he has suggested taking it with Thorne extra or even with zinc + manganese, as you’re getting the needed minerals but also...